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Автор:  Filip [ 02 ноя 2012 18:07:22 ]
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You are right, I agree the translation by LoC was rather subjective in certain examples.

I did some dictionary research about "mount". I have never seen it past the name of hill/mountain. It was always before the name, such as Mount Everest, Mount Ararat, etc.

Dictionary entry:
Цитата:
mount 2 (maʊnt)
— n
1. a mountain or hill: used in literature and (when cap.) in proper names: Mount Everest


So I believe Alexander Mount is wrong.

The possibilities are more. Isn't "sopka" unique geographical term for hills only in certain area? In the same way that for example prairie is only in Northern American, while the same thing is called pampa in Southern America, etc.

Possibilities which I see as of now:
-Alexandrovskaya sopka
-Alexandrovskaya mountain/hill
-Mount Alexandrovskaya (which sounds rather weird and least usable).

Автор:  Filip [ 05 ноя 2012 17:13:55 ]
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Something I wanted to ask about:
http://prokudin-gorsky.org/geocat.php?lang=en&is_old=1

Perm Krai 9
Perm Province 109

I guess that's wrong? Seems like Yekaterinbursky Uyezd was cut in half.

Also I don't know, but wouldn't Governate be more suitable for Gubernia rather than Province?

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http://prokudin-gorsky.org/geo.php?lang ... &p_id=2109
Not sure if pointed out but here uyezd misses "d".

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http://prokudin-gorsky.org/geo.php?lang ... =2&p_id=85
Putivl rayon in 1913? Should be Putivl uyezd.

Автор:  Vyacheslav [ 05 ноя 2012 19:27:56 ]
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Filip писал(а):
Something I wanted to ask about:
http://prokudin-gorsky.org/geocat.php?lang=en&is_old=1

Perm Krai 9
Perm Province 109

I guess that's wrong? Seems like Yekaterinbursky Uyezd was cut in half.

Also I don't know, but wouldn't Governate be more suitable for Gubernia rather than Province?

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http://prokudin-gorsky.org/geo.php?lang ... &p_id=2109
Not sure if pointed out but here uyezd misses "d".

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http://prokudin-gorsky.org/geo.php?lang ... =2&p_id=85
Putivl rayon in 1913? Should be Putivl uyezd.


Thank you very much, Philip, as usual!
I have corrected all.

Governate or Province, it is not so important. I followed the example of Wiki articles.
And what does it mean: Seems like Yekaterinbursky Uyezd was cut in half?

Автор:  Filip [ 05 ноя 2012 19:37:35 ]
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I am glad my objections were usefull for the website improvement :)

About the Yekaterinburg uyezd, it was merely a note about the doubling of Perm Krai and Perm province in the 1913 list. So it is all corrected now.

Thank you for corrections and I agree that it doesn't really matter with Governate/Province.

Автор:  Filip [ 10 ноя 2012 08:37:58 ]
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Seeing the very nice new restorations from Cherdyn uyezd, noticed this mistake:
http://prokudin-gorsky.org/arcs.php?lan ... 348&type=2
First letter is obviously missing.

Also the recently corrected Putivl uyezd seems to be missing "d".

Again only minor things about one letter.

Автор:  Vyacheslav [ 10 ноя 2012 11:53:08 ]
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Filip писал(а):
Seeing the very nice new restorations from Cherdyn uyezd, noticed this mistake:
http://prokudin-gorsky.org/arcs.php?lan ... 348&type=2
First letter is obviously missing.

Also the recently corrected Putivl uyezd seems to be missing "d".

Again only minor things about one letter.


Thanks, done.

Автор:  Filip [ 08 фев 2013 13:24:27 ]
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Few more mistakes found:

http://prokudin-gorsky.org/geo.php?lang ... &p_id=2565
Kalinin raion to be changed.

http://prokudin-gorsky.org/card.php?lan ... tos_id=355
Second

http://prokudin-gorsky.org/card.php?lan ... os_id=1565
Seems like there was pasted extra wrong inventory number (8661 is the old mirror).

Edit:
http://prokudin-gorsky.org/geo.php?lang ... &p_id=3093
Chelyabinsk oblast in 1913 catalog should switched with Orenburg province, which is incorrectly in "modern catalog".

Автор:  Vyacheslav [ 08 фев 2013 15:20:16 ]
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Filip писал(а):
Few more mistakes found:

http://prokudin-gorsky.org/geo.php?lang ... &p_id=2565
Kalinin raion to be changed.

http://prokudin-gorsky.org/card.php?lan ... tos_id=355
Second

http://prokudin-gorsky.org/card.php?lan ... os_id=1565
Seems like there was pasted extra wrong inventory number (8661 is the old mirror).

Edit:
http://prokudin-gorsky.org/geo.php?lang ... &p_id=3093
Chelyabinsk oblast in 1913 catalog should switched with Orenburg province, which is incorrectly in "modern catalog".


Thank you very much, Filip! I've corrected all.

Автор:  Filip [ 10 фев 2013 16:30:39 ]
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I am glad to help you!

Town of Tyumen seems to be half in Tobolsk uyezd and half in Tyumen uyezd.

Автор:  Filip [ 23 фев 2013 21:00:28 ]
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Some more bits, not many mistakes, more like philological ideas.

Firstly, there seems to be some sort of weird hybrid in Borzhom names: Olgin, Ekaterinin, Evgeniev.

Why is it Olgin/Ольгин afterall ? In LoC database it's Olginskiy, and so it is on postcards.
Изображение

Further, there are two ways of solving these hybrids.
First solution: Olginskiy bridge, Ekaterininskiy and Evgenievskiy spring
Second: Olga bridge, Catherine spring, Eugene spring.

It is upon you.

Also there is still "Torskaia Mount". I will recommend my earlier post from this thread where I explained the naming of mountains in english.

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Regarding Dagestan Oblast:
-Avarsky district
-Gunib uyez (district)

Weren't both of these Okrugs? Would be good to unite in it any way, be it Avarsky uyezd (district), Avarsky okrug (district) or something like this.
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In geographical list of 1913, all Oblasts are oblasts in english too, except for "Transcaspian Region".

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